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Fwd: [bmdc-wg] Trans women competing in women's sports

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Forwarded Conversation Subject: [bmdc-wg] Trans women competing in women's sports ------------------------ From: " john.r.harris@verizon.net " < bmdc@lists.riseup.net > Date: Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 9:32 PM To: BMDC Working Group < bmdc@lists.riseup.net > Hi Folks, The debate on trans women in women's sports is unfolding among many people whether any of us likes it or not. Canceling and demonizing people will not change this fact. To those of you who want to demonize BMDC, if you want to continue bullying us, then maybe you should be bullying Cornel West as well, if you have any consistency at all, which I doubt. Your lust for summary expulsions will not advance the debate in any way, shape, or form.  Cornel West has taken a position. It is described in the Karen Hunter Show on YouTube. His response is to have  3 categories in sports. He is asked the question at about 18:45 in the video and his response is at about 19:15 in this video:  https://www.youtube.c...

Fwd: [bmdc-wg] Trans women competing in women's sports

Subject: [bmdc-wg] Trans women competing in women's sports ------------------------ From: " john.r.harris@verizon.net " < bmdc@lists.riseup.net > Date: Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 9:32 PM To: BMDC Working Group < bmdc@lists.riseup.net > Hi Folks, The debate on trans women in women's sports is unfolding among many people whether any of us likes it or not. Canceling and demonizing people will not change this fact. To those of you who want to demonize BMDC, if you want to continue bullying us, then maybe you should be bullying Cornel West as well, if you have any consistency at all, which I doubt. Your lust for summary expulsions will not advance the debate in any way, shape, or form.  Cornel West has taken a position. It is described in the Karen Hunter Show on YouTube. His response is to have  3 categories in sports. He is asked the question at about 18:45 in the video and his response is at about 19:15 in this video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1HCAmx3xrc ...

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Fwd: [bmdc-wg] BMDC Meeting Sunday 6/18 6:30pm

---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Heidi Olson < holson3@outlook.com > Date: Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [bmdc-wg] BMDC Meeting Sunday 6/18 6:30pm To: Lita Xú Líng Kelley < xulingkelley@gmail.com >, dmkeil@gmail.com < dmkeil@gmail.com > Cc: DAVID KEIL < bmdc@lists.riseup.net > Thank you for clarifying that.  While it is important we discuss, respect and hear from transgender women & transgender rights, we should not silence or step on cis women in the process.  Cis women are also oppressed!  No matter what race, women in general have historically been and continue to be opposed that is very apparent with the attacks on women's rights and with the silencing of women's voices.  We need to respect and listen to ALL women, cis and transgender!  Declaring a cis woman's views, if they conflict with transgender women's views as transphobic, is using the word transphobic as a weapon to silence cis women!  Let...

Fwd: [bmdc-wg] I am leaving BMDC

---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Michael Heichman < michaelheichman@gmail.com > Date: Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [bmdc-wg] I am leaving BMDC To: < xulingkelley@gmail.com > Cc: John Harris < john.r.harris@verizon.net >, BMDC Working Group < bmdc@lists.riseup.net >, Stevie Downie < downie.steve@yahoo.com >, Robert Michael Pittsley < rpittsley6@gmail.com > Lita, Thanks for clarifying. Yes, I did ask for guidelines for the usage of our lists. Yes, I did not initiate discussion on the general list. Mike On Jun 12, 2023, at 10:19 AM, Lita Xú Líng Kelley (via bmdc Mailing List) < bmdc@lists.riseup.net > wrote: That's not true John.  We voted to create a discussion list.   Mike asked for written guidelines,   You refused and asserted yourself in your typical authoritarian manner.   POST THE WRITTEN RULES!  They do not exist!   It was JANE that posted transphobic rhetoric to the work list first and Mike responded,    On ...